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	<title>Comments on: Monthly Lot Assessments – Some Are Not Paying</title>
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	<description>What are your thoughts on the proposed fee?</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 18:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob Crouch</title>
		<link>http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/monthly-lot-assessments-%e2%80%93-some-are-not-paying/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Crouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please read the Smoke Signals Online Article.

The net is:

The Big Canoe Covenants allow the Developer to sell combined lots.
The Developer can include in the contract that they may be subdivided later. He did this in 12 transactions in the past.
The POA has no say in these matters. There is a legal, binding contract and the Covenants permit the action. 
The Developer has sent the POA a letter saying that in the future back assessments would be included in the contract.
The opportunity to formalize this is with the new Covenants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read the Smoke Signals Online Article.</p>
<p>The net is:</p>
<p>The Big Canoe Covenants allow the Developer to sell combined lots.<br />
The Developer can include in the contract that they may be subdivided later. He did this in 12 transactions in the past.<br />
The POA has no say in these matters. There is a legal, binding contract and the Covenants permit the action.<br />
The Developer has sent the POA a letter saying that in the future back assessments would be included in the contract.<br />
The opportunity to formalize this is with the new Covenants.</p>
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		<title>By: fshead</title>
		<link>http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/monthly-lot-assessments-%e2%80%93-some-are-not-paying/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>fshead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Bob.

I’m willing to let you give the details here. Take the opportunity to do so; you are a board director.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bob.</p>
<p>I’m willing to let you give the details here. Take the opportunity to do so; you are a board director.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Crouch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Crouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,

Why don't you provide the details as you attended the meeting. There is important detail that you can furnish beyond a mere yes or no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you provide the details as you attended the meeting. There is important detail that you can furnish beyond a mere yes or no.</p>
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		<title>By: fshead</title>
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		<dc:creator>fshead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>POA BOARD DECISIONS – 3/18/2009:

Will the Board allow this property owner to separate his one lot back into three lots (Lot 3511 back into lots 3511, 3512 and 3513)?  Yes

Was this property owner trying to avoid our assessments?  Yes

Will the Board require this property owner to pay the 5 years of monthly lot assessments on lots 3512 and 3513 (with interest and penalties)? No

This is only one of many multi-lots paying only one monthly assessment. 

Since Bob Crouch, POA Board Director, is back commenting on this forum, I will let him give you the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>POA BOARD DECISIONS – 3/18/2009:</p>
<p>Will the Board allow this property owner to separate his one lot back into three lots (Lot 3511 back into lots 3511, 3512 and 3513)?  Yes</p>
<p>Was this property owner trying to avoid our assessments?  Yes</p>
<p>Will the Board require this property owner to pay the 5 years of monthly lot assessments on lots 3512 and 3513 (with interest and penalties)? No</p>
<p>This is only one of many multi-lots paying only one monthly assessment. </p>
<p>Since Bob Crouch, POA Board Director, is back commenting on this forum, I will let him give you the details.</p>
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		<title>By: fshead</title>
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		<dc:creator>fshead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is going to be interesting:

Will the Board allow this property owner to separate his one lot back into three lots (Lot 3511 back into lots 3511, 3512 and 3513)?

They will need to decide quickly as he has already done so; and he has the lots for sale: http://activerain.com/blogsview/963058/New-Listing-3-great-Lots-in-Big-Canoe

Was this property owner trying to avoid our assessments?

Will the Board require this property owner to pay the 5 years of monthly lot assessments on lots 3512 and 3513 (with interest and penalties)?

Stay tuned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is going to be interesting:</p>
<p>Will the Board allow this property owner to separate his one lot back into three lots (Lot 3511 back into lots 3511, 3512 and 3513)?</p>
<p>They will need to decide quickly as he has already done so; and he has the lots for sale: <a href="http://activerain.com/blogsview/963058/New-Listing-3-great-Lots-in-Big-Canoe" rel="nofollow">http://activerain.com/blogsview/963058/New-Listing-3-great-Lots-in-Big-Canoe</a></p>
<p>Was this property owner trying to avoid our assessments?</p>
<p>Will the Board require this property owner to pay the 5 years of monthly lot assessments on lots 3512 and 3513 (with interest and penalties)?</p>
<p>Stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Just a Resident</title>
		<link>http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/monthly-lot-assessments-%e2%80%93-some-are-not-paying/#comment-529</link>
		<dc:creator>Just a Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Information from Dawson County tax records:

Owner and Parcel Information 
Owner Name   1031 EULALIA LLC   
Today's Date   March 07, 2009  
Mailing Address     3909 CLUB DR   
Parcel Number   024D 088   
ATLANTA, GA 30319  
Tax District   UNINCORPORATED (District 01)  
Location Address   3511 BEAR CREEK PT   
2007 Millage Rate   22.4400  
Legal Description   LOT 3511 WILDCAT W-2 LL 308 LD 5-2    
Acres   2.97    
Class Code (NOTE: Not Zoning Info)
R3-Residential    Special   5-2    
Neighborhood    Big Canoe    
Homestead Exemption   No (S0)    
Landlot/District   308/       

2008 Tax Year Value Information 
Land
Value Improvement $345,000
Value  Accessory Value $0 
Total Value $345,000  
Previous Value $345,000
Land Information  
Type Description Calculation Method
RES  BIG CANOE(100,000 B) (89)  
Number of Lots  3
Improvement Information 
No improvement information associated with this parcel. 

Accessory Information 
Description Year Built  Dimensions/Units  Value  
No accessory information associated with this parcel. 

Sale Information 
Sale Date  Deed Book  Plat Page  Price  Reason  Grantor Grantee  
06-14-2004  603 479  59 123  $0   Gift  OLIVER DAVID  1031 EULALIA LLC  
06-14-2004  603 472  59 123  $0   Gift  1031 EULALIA  OLIVER DAVID  
06-14-2004  603 470  59 123  $355,500   Not Fair Market  BIG CANOE COMPANY LLC  1031 EULALIA  

Dawson County Tax Assessor Records:
http://64.234.218.210/cgi-bin/ga_dawson_display.cgi?KEY=024D%20%20%20088&#38;

Evidently, this parcel of 2.97 acres does consist of 3 lots according to Dawson County.  As the public records show, it was sold by Big Canoe Company, LLC to 1031 Eulalia for $355,500, which was not fair market value.  It was subsequently transfered to David Oliver, then to 1031 Eulalia LLC.  

It will be interesting to see who the owner has connections with and what, if any, explanation is made of this lates example of egregious behavior.  Do you think you or I would have been allowed to do this?

The only way this should be allowed is to require the owner to pay the assessments plus interest as a condition to having the lots re-divided and this isn't really fair to the many residents who own more than one lot and are paying assessments monthly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Information from Dawson County tax records:</p>
<p>Owner and Parcel Information<br />
Owner Name   1031 EULALIA LLC<br />
Today&#8217;s Date   March 07, 2009<br />
Mailing Address     3909 CLUB DR<br />
Parcel Number   024D 088<br />
ATLANTA, GA 30319<br />
Tax District   UNINCORPORATED (District 01)<br />
Location Address   3511 BEAR CREEK PT<br />
2007 Millage Rate   22.4400<br />
Legal Description   LOT 3511 WILDCAT W-2 LL 308 LD 5-2<br />
Acres   2.97<br />
Class Code (NOTE: Not Zoning Info)<br />
R3-Residential    Special   5-2<br />
Neighborhood    Big Canoe<br />
Homestead Exemption   No (S0)<br />
Landlot/District   308/       </p>
<p>2008 Tax Year Value Information<br />
Land<br />
Value Improvement $345,000<br />
Value  Accessory Value $0<br />
Total Value $345,000<br />
Previous Value $345,000<br />
Land Information<br />
Type Description Calculation Method<br />
RES  BIG CANOE(100,000 B) (89)<br />
Number of Lots  3<br />
Improvement Information<br />
No improvement information associated with this parcel. </p>
<p>Accessory Information<br />
Description Year Built  Dimensions/Units  Value<br />
No accessory information associated with this parcel. </p>
<p>Sale Information<br />
Sale Date  Deed Book  Plat Page  Price  Reason  Grantor Grantee<br />
06-14-2004  603 479  59 123  $0   Gift  OLIVER DAVID  1031 EULALIA LLC<br />
06-14-2004  603 472  59 123  $0   Gift  1031 EULALIA  OLIVER DAVID<br />
06-14-2004  603 470  59 123  $355,500   Not Fair Market  BIG CANOE COMPANY LLC  1031 EULALIA  </p>
<p>Dawson County Tax Assessor Records:<br />
<a href="http://64.234.218.210/cgi-bin/ga_dawson_display.cgi?KEY=024D%20%20%20088&#038;amp" rel="nofollow">http://64.234.218.210/cgi-bin/ga_dawson_display.cgi?KEY=024D%20%20%20088&#038;amp</a>;</p>
<p>Evidently, this parcel of 2.97 acres does consist of 3 lots according to Dawson County.  As the public records show, it was sold by Big Canoe Company, LLC to 1031 Eulalia for $355,500, which was not fair market value.  It was subsequently transfered to David Oliver, then to 1031 Eulalia LLC.  </p>
<p>It will be interesting to see who the owner has connections with and what, if any, explanation is made of this lates example of egregious behavior.  Do you think you or I would have been allowed to do this?</p>
<p>The only way this should be allowed is to require the owner to pay the assessments plus interest as a condition to having the lots re-divided and this isn&#8217;t really fair to the many residents who own more than one lot and are paying assessments monthly.</p>
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