Comments on: Voting “FOR” the Capital Initiation Fee? — BE AWARE !!!! http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/voting-%e2%80%9cfor%e2%80%9d-the-capital-initiation-fee-be-aware/ What are your thoughts on the proposed fee? Sun, 20 May 2012 19:15:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: rfcrouc http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/voting-%e2%80%9cfor%e2%80%9d-the-capital-initiation-fee-be-aware/#comment-384 rfcrouc Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:40:09 +0000 http://4kfee.com/?p=116#comment-384 A written proxy and a meeting or a written ballot. Every opportunity for every property owner. Got it? A written proxy and a meeting or a written ballot. Every opportunity for every property owner.

Got it?

]]> By: Big Mac http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/voting-%e2%80%9cfor%e2%80%9d-the-capital-initiation-fee-be-aware/#comment-383 Big Mac Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:37:54 +0000 http://4kfee.com/?p=116#comment-383 Bob: "It can be changed in a meeting, or by a written ballot." Pete: "I think he's got it. I think he's got it." Bob: “It can be changed in a meeting, or by a written ballot.”

Pete: “I think he’s got it. I think he’s got it.”

]]> By: rfcrouc http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/voting-%e2%80%9cfor%e2%80%9d-the-capital-initiation-fee-be-aware/#comment-382 rfcrouc Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:56:08 +0000 http://4kfee.com/?p=116#comment-382 There are two different procedures for voting on an increase in the Fee. One is at a meeting. Notice will be given and members can attend and vote in person or they can designate a proxy to vote on their behalf at the meeting. The vote can also be taken be written ballot without a meeting. That is where a ballot will be sent to all members. The ballot will give a person a choice of voting for or against the increase. Ballots are returned to the accountants and tallied. The results are then announced. Both procedures give every member the ability to vote. One is at a meeting, in person or by proxy and the other is without a meeting by written ballot. There are two different procedures for voting on an increase in the Fee.

One is at a meeting. Notice will be given and members can attend and vote in person or they can designate a proxy to vote on their behalf at the meeting.

The vote can also be taken be written ballot without a meeting. That is where a ballot will be sent to all members. The ballot will give a person a choice of voting for or against the increase. Ballots are returned to the accountants and tallied. The results are then announced.

Both procedures give every member the ability to vote. One is at a meeting, in person or by proxy and the other is without a meeting by written ballot.

]]> By: Taylor http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/voting-%e2%80%9cfor%e2%80%9d-the-capital-initiation-fee-be-aware/#comment-378 Taylor Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:15:17 +0000 http://4kfee.com/?p=116#comment-378 The question of a written ballot, or a called meeting, is who can / will vote. Many BC full-time residents travel, and may not be able to attend a called meeting. Seasonal residents could be in Florida or elsewhere. Part time residents could be close enough to attend a called meeting, or they could be out of state. It may be neither practical nor convenient to attend a called meeting. Lot owners could be anywhere. My issue is that a called meeting to change the C&R's disenfranchises a significant number of property owners. This is wrong! The question of a written ballot, or a called meeting, is who can / will vote.
Many BC full-time residents travel, and may not be able to attend a called meeting.
Seasonal residents could be in Florida or elsewhere.
Part time residents could be close enough to attend a called meeting, or they could be out of state. It may be neither practical nor convenient to attend a called meeting.
Lot owners could be anywhere.
My issue is that a called meeting to change the C&R’s disenfranchises a significant number of property owners.
This is wrong!

]]> By: rfcrouc http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/voting-%e2%80%9cfor%e2%80%9d-the-capital-initiation-fee-be-aware/#comment-372 rfcrouc Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:33:23 +0000 http://4kfee.com/?p=116#comment-372 You ask for the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth but are reluctant to provide answers to basic questions regarding your concern over meetings. The answers are: There are strict guidelines regarding notice to property owners of a meeting. These guidelines provide all property owners the opportunity to cast their vote. A quorum is required. 50% of that quorum must vote in favor of any proposed change to Big Canoe C&R's. Only a vote of the propertry owners can change our C&R's. You ask for the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth but are reluctant to provide answers to basic questions regarding your concern over meetings.
The answers are:
There are strict guidelines regarding notice to property owners of a meeting.
These guidelines provide all property owners the opportunity to cast their vote.
A quorum is required.
50% of that quorum must vote in favor of any proposed change to Big Canoe C&R’s.
Only a vote of the propertry owners can change our C&R’s.

]]> By: fshead http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/voting-%e2%80%9cfor%e2%80%9d-the-capital-initiation-fee-be-aware/#comment-359 fshead Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:21:55 +0000 http://4kfee.com/?p=116#comment-359 Thanks, Bob. I will let the property owners read this post/topic and decide the issue for themselves. As for the new CIF, all of my neighbors and I have voted NO. Thanks, Bob. I will let the property owners read this post/topic and decide the issue for themselves.

As for the new CIF, all of my neighbors and I have voted NO.

]]> By: rfcrouc http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/voting-%e2%80%9cfor%e2%80%9d-the-capital-initiation-fee-be-aware/#comment-358 rfcrouc Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:21:38 +0000 http://4kfee.com/?p=116#comment-358 There is nothing for property owners to BEWARE of. The only thing to be aware of is that EACH AND EVERY property owner would have full opportunity to vote for any proposed change to the CIF. There is nothing for property owners to BEWARE of.
The only thing to be aware of is that EACH AND EVERY property owner would have full opportunity to vote for any proposed change to the CIF.

]]> By: fshead http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/voting-%e2%80%9cfor%e2%80%9d-the-capital-initiation-fee-be-aware/#comment-354 fshead Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:23:18 +0000 http://4kfee.com/?p=116#comment-354 As I have said (no matter how you spin your answers), this post is all about ever having another “written” ballot on this CIF. Please read Promise Number One at www.thesixpromises.blogspot.com Thank you for the spin…………. As I have said (no matter how you spin your answers), this post is all about ever having another “written” ballot on this CIF.

Please read Promise Number One at http://www.thesixpromises.blogspot.com

Thank you for the spin………….

]]> By: rfcrouc http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/voting-%e2%80%9cfor%e2%80%9d-the-capital-initiation-fee-be-aware/#comment-353 rfcrouc Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:29:14 +0000 http://4kfee.com/?p=116#comment-353 You wrote "The POA Board’s attorney has written the Covenants and Restrictions CIF Amendment so that they can change the CIF percentage rate without another “written” ballot." You also wrote "If you vote “FOR” the new 0.75% Capital Initiation Fee, you most likely won’t get to vote “against” any future percentage rate increases." And you wrote to "BE AWARE!!!!" Be aware of what? If the Amendment were to be voted on via a meeting what is the notice required to property owners? Is a quorum of property owners required at the meeting? What percent of property owners need to be present to enable a quorum? How many property owners need to be present to constitute a quorum? When you provide these answers it will be apparent that there is the same opportunity to vote at a meeting or by written ballot. There is no need for concern. You wrote “The POA Board’s attorney has written the Covenants and Restrictions CIF Amendment so that they can change the CIF percentage rate without another “written” ballot.”

You also wrote “If you vote “FOR” the new 0.75% Capital Initiation Fee, you most likely won’t get to vote “against” any future percentage rate increases.”

And you wrote to “BE AWARE!!!!”

Be aware of what?

If the Amendment were to be voted on via a meeting what is the notice required to property owners?
Is a quorum of property owners required at the meeting?
What percent of property owners need to be present to enable a quorum?
How many property owners need to be present to constitute a quorum?
When you provide these answers it will be apparent that there is the same opportunity to vote at a meeting or by written ballot. There is no need for concern.

]]> By: fshead http://4kfee.com/every-thought-counts/voting-%e2%80%9cfor%e2%80%9d-the-capital-initiation-fee-be-aware/#comment-338 fshead Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:50:30 +0000 http://4kfee.com/?p=116#comment-338 Thanks, Bob. I never said they could; it never was the issue. Thanks, Bob. I never said they could; it never was the issue.

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